God’s kingdom is here, among the poor, as radical resistance to the injustice and violence of Roman commercialism. Greek culture, built on a cosmic dualism between spirit and matter, is the poisonous justification for separating people’s spiritual welfare from their physical fate. An unjust world can starve the poor, keep slaves, accept inequality, by compensating victims with religion now, heaven later. Communities that resist such exploitation and reject such dualism, not with force but through their refusal to participate in it at all, threaten the system far more than open rebellion, as Gandhi would later demonstrate in India.
still digesting this, but great post!
You've probably read it, but in case you haven't - "The Real Jesus" - the chapter on the Jesus Seminar and Crossan I thought helpful. A problem with him was that, at least for awhile there, his views and interviews were the primary fodder for media analysis of the Gospels. He was presented as "expert' without the qualification that his views are the minority.I think his view is somewhat Manichaean - that the Empire is unequivocably evil - Interesting post - Crossan is a favorite of the Pastor of my wife's church.
Hi Jen!How's the new apartment working out?Hi Marc,Thanks for visiting.You know, I've read a lot more of Crossan's more recent stuff than his older work. He's been out of that Jesus Seminar gig for a while now. Yeah, I know what you mean. In a lot of those 20/20 specials they decide to do on religion every once a year or so, they pick people they figure to be deconstructionists, or at least controversial. I think Crossan has earned his chops as a scholar though, and as he often points out himself, other scholars are quick to tell him how wrong he is. He seems to take criticism well, and may have even shifted a few of his views in the back-and-forth tussles with other academics. I think his view is somewhat Manichaean - that the Empire is unequivocably evil Ah, so you think he's the one being gnostic. :) I think the point he was trying to make in 'God & Empire' was that Israel was continuously subjected to conquest by larger empires, and that the Kingdom of God was in contra-distinction to that. It was to be a great clean-up of the world in which Israel would be vindicated and the world set to rights. Crossan's main point was that empires establish "peace through victory" and that all empires eventually have to resort to violence in order to sustain themselves. In contrast the Kingdom of God establishes "peace through justice." In a world ruled with swords and spears, the cycle of rising and falling empires was something we could afford to live with. In a world with nuclear weapons and other types of WMD, we don't have that option much longer if we want to survive.
I really like him :) Thanks for posting a link to that interview. I used to have it bookmarked but lost it when my computer died.
Hi Crystal,I heard you got a new (used machine) from your sister. Do we need to take up a new collection? :-)Actually, when I was researching this, I ran across a post that you had put up before that used some of this interview.
Working out great! :)
Nope, no need for a new collection :)Sometimes Crossan answers the questions at the On Faith site too.
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still digesting this, but great post!
You've probably read it, but in case you haven't - "The Real Jesus" - the chapter on the Jesus Seminar and Crossan I thought helpful. A problem with him was that, at least for awhile there, his views and interviews were the primary fodder for media analysis of the Gospels. He was presented as "expert' without the qualification that his views are the minority.
I think his view is somewhat Manichaean - that the Empire is unequivocably evil -
Interesting post - Crossan is a favorite of the Pastor of my wife's church.
Hi Jen!
How's the new apartment working out?
Hi Marc,
Thanks for visiting.
You know, I've read a lot more of Crossan's more recent stuff than his older work. He's been out of that Jesus Seminar gig for a while now. Yeah, I know what you mean. In a lot of those 20/20 specials they decide to do on religion every once a year or so, they pick people they figure to be deconstructionists, or at least controversial. I think Crossan has earned his chops as a scholar though, and as he often points out himself, other scholars are quick to tell him how wrong he is. He seems to take criticism well, and may have even shifted a few of his views in the back-and-forth tussles with other academics.
I think his view is somewhat Manichaean - that the Empire is unequivocably evil
Ah, so you think he's the one being gnostic. :)
I think the point he was trying to make in 'God & Empire' was that Israel was continuously subjected to conquest by larger empires, and that the Kingdom of God was in contra-distinction to that. It was to be a great clean-up of the world in which Israel would be vindicated and the world set to rights. Crossan's main point was that empires establish "peace through victory" and that all empires eventually have to resort to violence in order to sustain themselves. In contrast the Kingdom of God establishes "peace through justice." In a world ruled with swords and spears, the cycle of rising and falling empires was something we could afford to live with. In a world with nuclear weapons and other types of WMD, we don't have that option much longer if we want to survive.
I really like him :) Thanks for posting a link to that interview. I used to have it bookmarked but lost it when my computer died.
Hi Crystal,
I heard you got a new (used machine) from your sister. Do we need to take up a new collection? :-)
Actually, when I was researching this, I ran across a post that you had put up before that used some of this interview.
Working out great! :)
Nope, no need for a new collection :)
Sometimes Crossan answers the questions at the On Faith site too.
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