Thanks for the history lesson. I had never seen that movie before. Must go find old Bergman classics and study up on my German. Oh, good, English subtitles. Whew.
Here in NM we have group, the Penitente Brotherhood who have in the past and some still do practice self-flagellation.
Looks like they interrupted one of those "clown masses" you hear so much about. That's what they get for liturgical dancing!
Sad to say I've seen some pretty bad liturgical dancing. I'm not a fan of it, but I try not to be uncharitable when it happens. Just the thought of a clown mass makes me shudder. Though, clowns self flagellating might be funny.
Shia Islam's Ashura celebrations have nothing on these guys (The Shia are sort of the Catholics of Islam. It's a topic in and of itself).
Oh, now I'm going to have go study that. I really wish I knew more about Islam.
"Pie Jesu Domine..." THUNK! "Miserere nobis..." THUNK!
"Bring out yer dead!"
"I'm feeling much better... I'd like to go for a walk..."
Liturgical dance... I saw some brief instances of liturgical dance about 20 years ago, and nothing since then. I never see it, but I see complaints about it on the web all the time.
Of course, here back East, we don't even hold hands during the Our Father and do all that nice stuff that they do in the Midwest and other places. Heck, they can hardly get us to sing, let alone dance.
People used to hold hands during the Our Father out here, but that seems to be falling into disuse. (Thankfully...I'm not a fan of being touched by people I don't know. Much less of random strangers grabbing my body parts.) I haven't been to many area churches, though, so it could be different.
That's such a great film. I remember when I saw it for the first time, when I was about 17, and it just blew my mind. I had never seen anything like it. And Max and Gunnar are fantastic.
Liam beat me to the Holy Grail reference. Another amazing film.
And Maria beat me to mentioning Los Penitentes. That northern New Mexico area is verrrrry interesting. You also have the only real pilgrimage I know of in the U.S. - to the Santuario de Chimayo.
Northern New Mexico (and southern Colorado) is the closest to Spain in this country. Or parts of that area. It's even more interesting because of the mix with the Native Americans and Mexicans and Anglos. And, of course, Los Alamos. Weird energy up in that region.
Finally getting back over here. Yep, Cowboyangel, Northern New Mexico is very interesting. I wouldn't live anywhere, unless I could make it to Spain. Now that we have a president who can speak in complete sentences I don't feel like I need to flee. ;-)
But seriously, I'd like to make the Pilgrimage to Chimayo this year. I've lived here all my life and have never done it.
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Oh wow. They had EWTN back then? *ducks*
Cheerful film - make a great vocations advert :) von Sydow looks so young!
Thanks for the history lesson. I had never seen that movie before. Must go find old Bergman classics and study up on my German. Oh, good, English subtitles. Whew.
Here in NM we have group, the Penitente Brotherhood who have in the past and some still do practice self-flagellation.
Now I'm going to have to make a post.
Jen,
I suspect that Mother Angelica is really immortal and started EWTN way back then.
*runs and hides now*
Hi Crystal and Maria,
Cheerful film - make a great vocations advert...
... suspect that Mother Angelica is really immortal and started EWTN way back then.
Looks like they interrupted one of those "clown masses" you hear so much about. That's what they get for liturgical dancing!
Shia Islam's Ashura celebrations have nothing on these guys (The Shia are sort of the Catholics of Islam. It's a topic in and of itself).
Jeff,
Looks like they interrupted one of those "clown masses" you hear so much about. That's what they get for liturgical dancing!
Sad to say I've seen some pretty bad liturgical dancing. I'm not a fan of it, but I try not to be uncharitable when it happens. Just the thought of a clown mass makes me shudder. Though, clowns self flagellating might be funny.
Shia Islam's Ashura celebrations have nothing on these guys (The Shia are sort of the Catholics of Islam. It's a topic in and of itself).
Oh, now I'm going to have go study that. I really wish I knew more about Islam.
Though, clowns self flagellating might be funny.
That's brilliant.
Of course, there's always the Monty Python version:
"Pie Jesu Domine..." THUNK! "Miserere nobis..." THUNK!
Liam,
"Pie Jesu Domine..." THUNK! "Miserere nobis..." THUNK!
"Bring out yer dead!"
"I'm feeling much better... I'd like to go for a walk..."
Liturgical dance... I saw some brief instances of liturgical dance about 20 years ago, and nothing since then. I never see it, but I see complaints about it on the web all the time.
Of course, here back East, we don't even hold hands during the Our Father and do all that nice stuff that they do in the Midwest and other places. Heck, they can hardly get us to sing, let alone dance.
People used to hold hands during the Our Father out here, but that seems to be falling into disuse. (Thankfully...I'm not a fan of being touched by people I don't know. Much less of random strangers grabbing my body parts.) I haven't been to many area churches, though, so it could be different.
Jen,
That reminds me of >Why Catholics Can't Sing: The Culture of Catholicism and the Triumph of Bad Taste
That's such a great film. I remember when I saw it for the first time, when I was about 17, and it just blew my mind. I had never seen anything like it. And Max and Gunnar are fantastic.
Liam beat me to the Holy Grail reference. Another amazing film.
And Maria beat me to mentioning Los Penitentes. That northern New Mexico area is verrrrry interesting. You also have the only real pilgrimage I know of in the U.S. - to the Santuario de Chimayo.
Northern New Mexico (and southern Colorado) is the closest to Spain in this country. Or parts of that area. It's even more interesting because of the mix with the Native Americans and Mexicans and Anglos. And, of course, Los Alamos. Weird energy up in that region.
Finally getting back over here. Yep, Cowboyangel, Northern New Mexico is very interesting. I wouldn't live anywhere, unless I could make it to Spain. Now that we have a president who can speak in complete sentences I don't feel like I need to flee. ;-)
But seriously, I'd like to make the Pilgrimage to Chimayo this year. I've lived here all my life and have never done it.
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